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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 15, 2008 3:33 pm

dont forget i have a 4 year old and a baby in the oven.. i'm definitely familiar with those feelings.. and all i can say is.

"God.. you are sovereign and tell me that I should not be anxious about anything. I put my child's well being in your hands and leave them there... do whatever you will.. because you are God! Even if it hurts me... even if i would argue against your decision.. even if i would do things differently... even if i would hate you for it... my family, myself, my friends, my children... will all be cast away if you desire it.... because You are God.. and YOUR GLORY is worth MORE than the life me any of these things". How BEAUTIFUL does that make His grace look?!?! that we are THAT WORTHLESS and trifling.. but he would still say "meh.. i'll spare you" based sola gratia. His... GRACE... alone. children are not precious. People are not special. The Earth is not a gem. the elect are... only because He elected them. amen?

fast forward.. do you think those "bundle of joy" feelings lessen because the children get older? on the contrary.. my wife and I marvel everyday that our little girl is now 4 years old. I DREAD the day she turns 18 and says "i'm off to college" or "i signed my first lease.. i'm moving out".

talk about pain... there's a song by Steve curtis chapman i think that talks about "dancing with cinderella" or something like that... and each verse describes his little girl growing up.

v1.. my wife and i were smiling and all happy like "awwwwww"

v2.. we were still smiling... but it was very forced

v3... i had to leave the room... one day.. i will have to give my little precious to another man to take care of.. after spending all of her life taking care of her... where did i put my bullets?

but the connection to children grows at each stage of parenthood. so if i spend my time.. trying to raise my child into christianity.. only to have them go into wicca in their teen years... how do you think i would feel? Angry.. bitter... upset. but it's not about how I feel.. what is she saying to God.

so... by that thinking... i want my kids to stay young and ignorant.. and actually PRAY for a mental handicap to ensure my kids entrance to heaven. I jest, but really.. that's the extension of all this. should parents grow MORE CONCERNED with their childs spiritual well being as they grow older because the level of accountability grows? and you already know what i'm finta say... sola scriptura remember? Show me the scriptura!

annnd stop! i promise.. no more rebuttles from me ... (as long as you don't rebuttle me LOL).

PS

my avatar is BANGIN man... ya need to fix them glasses bredda. LOL. we can definitely build on this over the phone or at the next FFF that we attend (in a decade or so.. LOL).
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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 15, 2008 3:51 pm

btate0121 wrote:
dont forget i have a 4 year old and a baby in the oven.. i'm definitely familiar with those feelings.. and all i can say is.

"God.. you are sovereign and tell me that I should not be anxious about anything. I put my child's well being in your hands and leave them there... do whatever you will.. because you are God! Even if it hurts me... even if i would argue against your decision.. even if i would do things differently... even if i would hate you for it... my family, myself, my friends, my children... will all be cast away if you desire it.... because You are God.. and YOUR GLORY is worth MORE than the life me any of these things". How BEAUTIFUL does that make His grace look?!?! that we are THAT WORTHLESS and trifling.. but he would still say "meh.. i'll spare you" based sola gratia. His... GRACE... alone. children are not precious. People are not special. The Earth is not a gem. the elect are... only because He elected them. amen?

fast forward.. do you think those "bundle of joy" feelings lessen because the children get older? on the contrary.. my wife and I marvel everyday that our little girl is now 4 years old. I DREAD the day she turns 18 and says "i'm off to college" or "i signed my first lease.. i'm moving out".

talk about pain... there's a song by Steve curtis chapman i think that talks about "dancing with cinderella" or something like that... and each verse describes his little girl growing up.

v1.. my wife and i were smiling and all happy like "awwwwww"

v2.. we were still smiling... but it was very forced

v3... i had to leave the room... one day.. i will have to give my little precious to another man to take care of.. after spending all of her life taking care of her... where did i put my bullets?

but the connection to children grows at each stage of parenthood. so if i spend my time.. trying to raise my child into christianity.. only to have them go into wicca in their teen years... how do you think i would feel? Angry.. bitter... upset. but it's not about how I feel.. what is she saying to God.

so... by that thinking... i want my kids to stay young and ignorant.. and actually PRAY for a mental handicap to ensure my kids entrance to heaven. I jest, but really.. that's the extension of all this. should parents grow MORE CONCERNED with their childs spiritual well being as they grow older because the level of accountability grows? and you already know what i'm finta say... sola scriptura remember? Show me the scriptura!

annnd stop! i promise.. no more rebuttles from me ... (as long as you don't rebuttle me LOL).

PS

my avatar is BANGIN man... ya need to fix them glasses bredda. LOL. we can definitely build on this over the phone or at the next FFF that we attend (in a decade or so.. LOL).

Hey bro. God is sovereign. Amen? Amen!

Well, as long as you don't look for me this FFF. I won't be there (first one I've missed). I'm going on a Singles Retreat with my church.
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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 15, 2008 4:48 pm

prays for Mike's bachelorhood to end lol!
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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 15, 2008 4:54 pm

simply seth wrote:
prays for Mike's bachelorhood to end lol!

Well, I kind am seeing someone.... cheers

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about being a better man lately, too.
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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 16, 2008 1:38 am

Expositor wrote:
simply seth wrote:
prays for Mike's bachelorhood to end lol!

Well, I kind am seeing someone.... cheers

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about being a better man lately, too.


Shocked AGE of Accountability - Page 2 233846

Hey if it can Happen for Mike.... then it can happen for anyone... like me.... What a Face

scratch of course, by seeing do you mean, you are seeing her with her eyes or you are actually talking to her about maybe hanging out as a couple? cause there are layers to "kind of seeing"..... AGE of Accountability - Page 2 658233


and don't just be AGE of Accountability - Page 2 312142 apply yourself..... AGE of Accountability - Page 2 708423 the Talk.....
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PostSubject: Re: AGE of Accountability   AGE of Accountability - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 16, 2008 10:23 am

And so the debate rages on. LOL. This is good stuff. It's really challenging me. Thanks, Guys.
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