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PostSubject: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 4:42 pm

ignore a brother/sister in the faith and not at least at explain why the distance?


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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 6:35 pm

i'm learning that the answer to that question is "NO"

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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 7:06 pm

Expositor wrote:
ignore a brother/sister in the faith and not at least at explain why the distance?


Yeah ... tell me if I'm a jerk and quit avoidin' me Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyTue Jun 10, 2008 10:02 pm

Expositor wrote:
ignore a brother/sister in the faith and not at least at explain why the distance?
Naw, man.....its not alright. But kinda makes you wonder if they're really a brother/sister to begin with. Say bear some fruit. BEAR SOME FRUIT!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 1:26 am

Expositor wrote:
ignore a brother/sister in the faith and not at least at explain why the distance?

no. If they are your brother or sister in Christ, then you treat them like you would your real life bros and sis's.... you tell them why your distancing yourself from them.... otherwise it can lead to negative thoughts and the victim tearing himself/herself down and wondering if it was something they did or something said or if you yourself had to change something about yourself.... or if Christianity isn't right.... even us true converts can be hurt by well meaning people who call themselves Christians but then shun us without reason..... if theirs a reason.... tell me with as much love as you can muster so I can change.... don't let me live in sin or in any sort of wrong way..... if I harmed you, tell me how I did, so I don't harm another......
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 10:10 am

No...it is not alright. All that ever does is cause confusion and disunity...

Is disunity a word? Yeah...it is. It just looks funny to me for some reason. Why does it look so weird? Did I spell it correctly? Yeah...hmmm... Have you ever written a word correctly, but for some strange reason, it just looks really weird? I think I'm having a weird day. scratch

Anway... Is it ever alright to.... 385778 the Bible CLEARLY speaks about what you should do if you are offended or if someone is offended by you. And I don't see it printed ANYWHERE in scripture, where it says to "leaveth someone hangingeth" without a word of clarity or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 10:16 am

Those are pretty much my thoughts on the matter. I've just found it interesting how people who would say you're their brother or sister can ignore emails, comments and/or notes on MySpace, etc.

Oh well. Is it ever alright to.... 163246

Thanks, guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 10:27 am

Jewel wrote:
And I don't see it printed ANYWHERE in scripture, where it says to "leaveth someone hangingeth" without a word of clarity or whatever.

what?! you don't have 2nd Titus in your Bible?!

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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 10:30 am

Nah, I thought it was 2nd Hesitations.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 2:06 pm

Jewel wrote:
Is disunity a word?
I sure hope so. Cause I used it in a verse before.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 8:30 pm

No- its not cool to leaveth the brethren hangineth... lol!

However- I have one particular cat in mind that I am CONVINCED is a false brother affraid . He's up in my church but dude is straight buck wild...

I use to feel bad about not liking him... but I don't any more- I've tried to reason with him on several ocasions but he tried to drag me into an argument - dude hates all conversation about Christ- he is wolf in sheep's clothes, a tare among wheat,- straight stony ground... so... I've washed my hands of him

Am I wrong for "ignoringeth a paineth in the necketh" ? scratch

rebuke me fam if I'm wrong- I want to follow Christ in a way He is pleased.

To God be the glory cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 9:11 pm

elboogee wrote:
No- its not cool to leaveth the brethren hangineth... lol!

However- I have one particular cat in mind that I am CONVINCED is a false brother affraid . He's up in my church but dude is straight buck wild...

I use to feel bad about not liking him... but I don't any more- I've tried to reason with him on several ocasions but he tried to drag me into an argument - dude hates all conversation about Christ- he is wolf in sheep's clothes, a tare among wheat,- straight stony ground... so... I've washed my hands of him

Am I wrong for "ignoringeth a paineth in the necketh" ? scratch

rebuke me fam if I'm wrong- I want to follow Christ in a way He is pleased.

To God be the glory cheers

Tell me if I am wrong, but if there is a person like this in your church and he feels comfortable there, there's probably more people like him there.

If the apostle Paul were living today there would be a lot of churches p'd off at him, because he would have straight rebuked these churches for allowing sinfulness to pervade the church. Church folk love to quote "where two or three are gathered" but refuse to use it in the Biblical context it was intended for; church discipline.

If dude hates all conversations about Christ, he's definitely not a believer. We love Christ and I'm sure we can all talk about our glorious Savior all day long if we were allowed.

You should go to your pastor/elders and bring the situation up to them. If they are unwilling to do anything, I'd straight bounce right up out of there. Any lack of action shows a lack of love for God's Word and for holiness in the church.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyThu Jun 12, 2008 10:56 am

Oh my brothers and sisters, its so comforting to know that, when our so-called brothers and sisters in the faith diss us and cut communication and fellowship with us, that Christ has chosen a selected few to keep us focused and uplifted...giving us a renewed vigor to go back out in the cold, cruel world and be a light for Jesus. Its crazy but, just as El mentioned (and Expo confirmed) its hard to "assemble ourselves together with the saints" in CHURCH because a lot of them are wolf in sheep's clothing. But...I'm glad that I can at least assemble with you guys...here online! Love you all! Keep fighting the good fight of faith, and don't let the wolves bring you down.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever alright to....   Is it ever alright to.... EmptyThu Jun 12, 2008 12:38 pm

Thankfully, I'm not having that problem at Hope. I'm sure there are some there who aren't true believers, but with the gospel being preached constantly, it's hard for a sinner to sit there and be comfortable in his/her sin.

I think that's the problem with most churches that are seemingly filled with false converts. The gospel is not central. It's not proclaimed enough. The command (not suggestion) to repent is not clear.

The gospel should be so apparent at the end of a sermon that all one needs to do is give the command to repent. No need for an altar call. No need to ask anyone to pray a superstitious prayer that only gives a sense of false security. No need for anything but to realize that your sin has placed a perfect Christ on the cross and that God was amazingly kind in not destroying you but crushing His only begotten Son.

When a person is standing on train tracks and he/she sees a train coming, no one has to tell them what to do to live. The same should be with our gospel preaching/witnessing. If the real danger is not presented, there's no need to jump off the tracks.
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