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simply seth

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PostSubject: Sinners saved by grace ?   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 3:01 pm

are we sinners saved by grace ?
if so what is the biblical text to support this ?

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LaRosa
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PostSubject: Re: Sinners saved by grace ?   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 3:25 pm

Ephesians 2:8?

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
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simply seth

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PostSubject: Re: Sinners saved by grace ?   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 4:13 pm

but after salvation .. are we still considered sinners ?

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LaRosa
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PostSubject: Re: Sinners saved by grace ?   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 4:13 pm

saints Wink i.e. holy ones

although we still sin, obviously

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PostSubject: Re: Sinners saved by grace ?   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 4:14 pm

and Paul still called him the chief of sinners, even after his conversion...

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UndeservedGrace

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PostSubject: Regeneration Is the Start   Sinners saved by grace ? EmptyThu Jun 05, 2008 8:24 pm

Something to reflect on...

The new life that comes when the Holy Spirit transforms our hearts does not eradicate sin's presence from our lives. Even regenerate people still have a great capacity for evil after their hearts have been redirected towards the Savior. The power of sin to compel us to do evil is broken, but our ability to sin remains. (Romans 7:4-25 4Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

The Law and Sin
7What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." 8But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. 9I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. 10The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me. 11For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. 12So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
13Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. 14For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. 15For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.

21So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin. ESV).

We must do all that we can to put to death the lusts of the flesh. If we remember that regeneration is only the beginning of our walk, we will be less surprised at our struggles with temptation and more vigilant in mortifying the flesh.

TableTalk June 5, 2008 page 27
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